Strong Locktight Should Be Banned

Discussion in 'The Chat Room' started by smakmeharder, May 31, 2014.

By smakmeharder on May 31, 2014 at 8:49 PM
  1. smakmeharder

    smakmeharder Administrator

    Man I gotta say, when someone builds a heli and uses Super Strong locktight everywhere it drives me nuts! you have to heat all bolts before removal and even then bolts will snap rendering the mating part sometimes useless. (VENT!). So I purchased a second hand heli and man every time i try to the simplest thing (ie insert shims) bolts wont dislodge and break.. Anyone else had this problem?
     

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Discussion in 'The Chat Room' started by smakmeharder, May 31, 2014.

    1. simon

      simon Well-Known Member

      No?
       
    2. smakmeharder

      smakmeharder Administrator

      never had a problem untill this heli... Im wondering if super glue was used...
       
    3. The Dude

      The Dude Well-Known Member

      Just a shiz load of locktight by the sounds of it
       
    4. HungryHungryHippos

      HungryHungryHippos Well-Known Member

      I have also had this problem. Personally I think super strong "red" or permanent thread locker or Loctite, unless the helicopter manufacturer explicitly says to use such a type of Loctite, does far more harm then good.

      I have only come across one instance of where it said to use "red" or permanent thread locker, and that is in the Hirobo SST-Eagle Freya manual for the dampener and yoke bearing block attachment.

      Otherwise, I have had to destroy parts to get permanent thread locker undone. Yes you can apply heat, but, sometimes there are plastic parts attached to the component with the thread locker, and you cannot remove the plastic parts until you apply heat to the thread locker part, so its all over.

      Also, when things are tightened with permanent thread locker, a user is much less likely to take things apart and perform maintenance such as replacing a worn bearing etc.
       
    5. Manyc

      Manyc Well-Known Member

      I've had the same thing from manufacturers... so not just builders are at fault

      Citizen#024
       
    6. smakmeharder

      smakmeharder Administrator

      So you know my pain @HungryHungryHippos . So frustrating to destroy a perfectly good part because you cant disassemble it.
       
    7. HungryHungryHippos

      HungryHungryHippos Well-Known Member

      Sure do, I think it should be considered a sin.
       
    8. 5Fidy

      5Fidy RIP Jason

      Sooky la la. How bout a teaspoon of cement and harden
      the f*#k up. Now I totally understand when this happens when someone else does this detrimental locktiting they must be POURING THAT SHIZ right in there. I use red locktite on every thing and still to this day have NEVER stripped or broken a allen head screw the amount you put on the thread is the key don't be so generous you only need a small amount.
       
    9. smakmeharder

      smakmeharder Administrator

      Oh man I Never had this problem on this scale before... Drives me nuts. Makes it really hard to maintain. The bolts i do mange to get out are just caked in the stuff from top to bottom, very thick.
       
    10. jockstrap

      jockstrap Active Member

      I bought a 2nd hand t-rex600N once and the person had used red loctite on the screws but never told me.
      The 600n screws were a pain in the first place - with red on them I had to grind a slot in the head of 22 of the screws with a dremel to get them out and then it was still hard.. What a major pain in the butt that was..

      I've never had the need to use Red at all on a heli - the only place ever i've seen it justified is;

      1) VERY sparingly on main blade spindle bolts
      2) on damaged threads - of parts your prepared to throw away next time you need to separate them.
      3) on some gasser clutch bolts

      all the time - very sparingly..

      I also recently bought a Gaui X4 II frame - that had too much blue loctite from 2 owners ago and had 10 round-head screws strip trying to get them out...

      I hate red loctite and ROUNDHEAD SCREWS
       
    11. smakmeharder

      smakmeharder Administrator

      Thats my experience as well @jockstrap
       

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