I find that the executions disappointing, I'm not angry in any way, just saddened.

As an Australian citizen, I confess, it is our fault. It has always been clear around South East Asia, drug smuggling = death penalty.

Indonesia has executed other nationalities so they aren't explicitly discriminating against Australians.

Singapore has done it.

However, for them to be kept alive for 10 years, gone through a rehab process, then executed, it's diss appointing.

I thought, after 10 years of rehab, they deserved a chance to come home. Not for any other reason but that.

When they had a tsunami we came running to help them, but I wouldn't use that in their case, as all that was needed for clemency and a bit of mercy was the rehab.

Funny you mentioned the Americans, they had their fingers in Indonesia during the anti communist purge when Suharto came along, and you might be astounded at the number of people that got executed then.

I have been surfing all over Indonesia, I have been to Sumatra, Java, Sumbawa etc. They where all nice people.

Then again in Bali I was offered a big bag of dope on the beach during my early morning 5am surf.

I suspect it's not Indonesia that did it, it's the people in power at the top.

 

In Indonesia 33 people per day die from a heroin overdose, the amount of bashings, deaths and misery that would have caused (8kg) in Australia is crazy. I do feel for their families, and it it was some of my family I'd be doing everything I could to stay the executions. They were saying they want a 2 minutes of silence for them, really, that's reserved for the armed forces who have lost their lives in service, not two heroin traffickers. They knew the rules, they paid the price, I won't loose sleep over that one
Simon

 

They also say the death penalty is not a deterrent, I seriously think it is. That will make others think (and stop) for sure. I don't think prison would have. You are right @HungryHungryHippos , the wait time was too long, they should have capped them earlier
Simon

 

BTW they were not the mules, they organized it.
Simon

 

You know i am such a frekin fence sitter i have two cracks on my bum... Yes you are right @simon no doubt there will be no repeat offence from these two. But i cant help but think the whole thing was motivated politically - some underlying reason greater than just the death penalty and Maybe it is something Australia should be concerned about. My next door neighbour used to fly for the RAAF in the F18 hornets. He always said to me that our biggest security threat is Indonesia....I know the Indonesian people are also generally very nice as well just as @HungryHungryHippos pointed out.

 

I think the Indonesians fly Su27's, Su30's and F16's. The Su's will eat Australian FA18's (in my know-nothing opinion - fly higher, turn faster, more range etc)
It's not political, they were drug traffickers and were given the sentence that is mandated for that crime in that country
Simon

 

simple short answer .It should have happened 10 years ago ,now that our society has become NANA based, There aren't no real penalties for the people that choose to commit any crime....... Call me a hard Bastard ..but play with fire you going to get burnt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The only way to end "drug war" is legalising them.

Prohibition in US was good news for gangsters.

Government agencies in US fund their wars with Contras selling drugs to black people, US citizens.

Those who profit from drugs will never let them to be legal.

Executions of innocent people should be called murder. Are we sure they are guilty?

FEAR of death penalty will not work if huge ammounts of cash are involved.

 

Each user has themselves to blame as much as the drug dealers.

A user will find ways to get high regardless of a drug dealer, look at Krokodil in Russia.

Then these is substance abuse like paint sniffing, petrol sniffing, etc.

Then there is alcohol. Which most of the population take.

Then there is the white collar professional, which exploit the medical system, get high off sleeping pills and pain killers. Yes it does happen and is far more rampant than people think.

And you will be surprised how many middle class people have the occasional joint. Or the investment banker that snorts.

Each drug addict makes their own choice if they want to get high, they decide to shoot up, not the pusher, but the user.

The problem just as much lies with each person mentioned.

I think two people got the blame for everyone else.

 

I'm against the death penalty. In most cases it to bloody good for them. Peadaphiles, rapist, murderers & the like should all be made to suffer like thier victims. Be subjected to fear, despair etc, etc.. for the rest of there lives. These types of people & especially sex offenders Can Not be rehabilitated.
There always needs to be fear of punishment in society. We learn this from our perents. The choices a kid makes about doing the wrong thing is dirtectly related to if Dad finds out what will he do to me... No fear of punishment, then the little shiz will do & say what he wants. (bring back the cane)

The AFP once again new & set up these Australians without concern for the inevidable death penalty &
These two F@ckers walked out of court.. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...arged-trying-australian-quokka_n_7053558.html Our government wont protect it's people or it's native animals.

 

They knew the risks, sucked in 7 others, got caught, got the bullet.
What they were smuggling causes alot of suffering to many people, and these ringleaders chose to suck in 7 other people who have life sentences and to profit from it, so in my view rightly deserve their punishment.

 

The Su27s are a mean dog fighting piece of kit. I think however the super hornets have really impressive BVR and great range and much more refined than the older F18s. We also have a couple of F35As and they are going to replace our 100 F18s. On the airpower scale we dont rank to badly because we are aligned with the US and most of our aircraft are being used by the USA in various oil protection - sorry peace keeping missions. If Indonesian wanted to go AU they would hit New Guinea first. I think that would be the hotspot. PNG also has significant coal reserves..

 

@smakmeharder the Conspiracy Theorist. "I like long walks on the beach, playing with my radio controlled helicopter and reading conspiracy theories...". - thank goodness we have partners, I would tick two of those - never cared for the beach. LOL
Simon

 

I'm all for the punishment but death in a corrupt justice system is too server. They wouldn't had know about capital punishment as the last time this had occurred was in 2005 I believe.

Oh well its not my problem but RIP guys.

 

Well sorry for those that had to die but I agree with @simon. I think the harsh penalty will drastically reduce those wanting to take the chance to smuggle drugs.

 

Yes but taking a life or 6 shouldn't be used to set an example.....

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216491/

 

All for it !!! But they should have done it right away, not rehab them for 10 years and then throw led at them, that's just wrong !! a political statement for sure..