He rewinds many motors for himself and colleagues.

I have some of them.

I did not rewind motors for 700 and 800 yet... There was no need for this. Definitely I have few big motors I will rewind to see the difference. In general thick wires mean more power, less heat due to better cooling and less resistance. We can also modify kV if needed.

Use Google translator:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.epheli.pl/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=printview&t=46041&start=15&usg=ALkJrhgMySUQO-E3l-AqjolZM1fGs7QKlQ

There is also "full size":

 

Yep a $30 kbar ar in my logo 600... A $50 fubar in my x3 a $30kbar in another x3...all fly like champs. yep I get what I pay for more $$$moolah for new helis Lynx Oxy on the way with kbar sitting here ready to go not to say the clones are without fault I did get one faulty kbar on the bench which I got a refund for.
Have got a Skookum 540 in the 700

 

As HungryHungryHippos sugested you should: "drive across the border to Germany with your favourite V-bar clone, go to the Mikado factory, show them your V-bar clone (...) I am sure they can help you."

or get those:

http://www.perthrc.com.au/mini-vbar-case.html


Good example how Mikado parts are overpriced.

 

Lol I'm not too concerned with the casing... It's only me who sees it

 

You rip on Mikado, yet its because of Mikado these clones exist.

These clones use the firmware and algorithms that Mikado created.

When people use the a K-Bar, they still need to use the software and setup procedure that Mikado created.

Anyone that is using a Fubar or K-bar is using and relying on Mikado. Because thats what a K-bar or Fubar, is, its a silicon chip running Mikados original firmware.

I own 4 genuine V-bars, I have even paid extra for the pro firmware update, why?

because Mikado have provided me with a flying experience that I enjoy, I don't complain about it, I appreciate it.

Then along come people like you, that for some reason, are unhappy and need to rip on great product, which mind you have provided the flybarless experience you get today. But some how some people perform some mental gymnastics in their head to think otherwise.

The there are ridiculous claims like "FBL started gaining popularity around 2012 after ZYX was released."

How about saying things like "Mikado have done such a good job, that other people needed to copy them because they could not have done a better job".

At the end of the day its fact.

The clone manufacturers needed to clone a product, because they could not make as good of a product themselves.

They wouldn't have any idea or a hope in hell.

Read this.

 

I use a program box. Not the software
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/F09921-iCa...34pro-VBAR-KBAR-K-BAR-K8-GV8000-/261578945187

 

Amazon UK is selling Kbar:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QRVKM...21&ascsubtag=4a251a2ef9bbf4ccc35f97aba2c9cbda
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_?ie=UTF8&k=k-bar+gyro

 

It's listed on Amazon but Amazon themselves are not selling it...

 

That is right. Same story with Gartt helis.

 

Best 450 clone I had was a 3d pro sold from rc711 beautiful looking heli too... Have to see if I can find a photo it was my first 450 and a good choice too... Came with beast x ready to bind to Spektrum radio... They don't sell them anymore but Jeez... Wish I still had it

 

I'm just clarifying your statement. Amazon as a first party is not selling the device.. a 3rd party is, hence its the same as saying you can buy it on ebay.

Now that Mikado have closed down fu-bar, I wouldn't be surprised to find that they will close down the rest.

 

Here we go.... Facebook. Lol [/IMG]and with a few walkeras

 

Actually when Mikado threatened HobbyKing with lawyers, HobbyKing decided to send Fu-bars as free gifts.

 

This is an interesting statement. Did they send them to the general public or to Mikado?

Do you have any references?

 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=27103058&postcount=1
http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=5992803&postcount=44

 

In other words Mikado put Hobby King in their place.

 

Are you sure Turnigy Cyclone is not V-bar clone?

http://www.hobbyking.com/viewproduct.asp?idproduct=39514

Was Mikado successful stopping this?:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=k-bar gyro&_sop=15&rt=nc
http://www.banggood.com/GV8000-3-Axis-Gyro-Flybarless-System-5_3_4pro-For-RC-Helicopter-p-91217.html
http://www.queenhobby.com/PD950050-สินค้า-storm_minivbar_v_5_3_4_pro_new_flybarless_system.html
http://www.soodohobby.com/3XS-Flyba...00-Flybarless-Rc-Helicopter-MEMS-V-BAR_g.html
http://www.bighobby.net/store/product/view/MINI_E_Bar_Flybarless_System_5.3.4Pro-25367718-th.html



http://www.mijn-gadgets.nl/Webwinke...arless-System-5.3.4pro-For-RC-Helicopter.html

Legislation varies in different countries. Cannabis is good example:

LGBT rights in Europe:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Same_sex_marriage_map_Europe_detailed.svg.png

 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2207706
Turnigy Cyclone FBL unit.

 

Looks like they do not know how to flash firmware.

Cyclone is not attractive considering Kbar price on eBay. Who would bother?

 

Is stealing other peoples intellectual property something to be proud off?